Fire trucks from Sebring, Lake Milton, Ellsworth, and others on display at the Canfield Fair.
Most urban departments hate using Navistars, one by me damaged the doors on their brand new one to protest on how much they hate it.
I've heard people like them or they hate them. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground on the subject.
However, the commercial chassis large apparatus are HIDEOUS, particularly the Internationals. Ugh. Barf, and bad equipment at that.